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Bid to punish gun-seizing cops gets Senate support
The Associated PressFebruary 19, 2014
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BOISE, Idaho — A bill to
punish law enforcement officers who obey a hypothetical federal mandate
to seize the firearms of Idaho citizens found no opposition on the
Senate floor.
Lawmakers voted 34-0 in favor of the bill Wednesday, clearing its path to the House.
Sen.
Steve Vick, a Dalton Gardens Republican who co-sponsors the bill with
Meridian Republican Marv Hagedorn, touts it as a way to ensure
Idahoans' Second Amendment rights are protected.
The proposal is a response to fears that President Barack Obama will ban some guns.
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Update: Idaho Senate Un-Holsters Weapons Bills
Rep. Marv Hagedorn's firearms-related proposal is far from the only gun bill to surface this session.
by George Prentice
Former-Boise GOP Rep. Mark Patterson is no longer at the Idaho Statehouse--
resigning in early January after it was learned that he had been arrested in Florida during the 1970s on a charge of rape. But Patterson's fingerprints are all over a 2014 version of a bill that he tried to push through the 2013 Legislature.
The measure--this time being fronted by Sen. Marv Hagedorn--would
punish Idaho law enforcement officials if they helped enforce any new
federal firearms restrictions. The 2013 version passed in the Idaho
House but died in an Idaho Senate Committee.
This year Hagedorn, a Meridian Republican, is trying a different
strategy: tackling the Senate side of the Capitol first, before heading
to the Idaho House where he would hope to have a better chance of
passage.
"The first offense would be a $1,000 fine and a second offense would
result in a misdemeanor charge," Hagedorn told the Senate State Affairs
Committee Feb. 10, outlining how law enforcers could become criminals if
they assisted federal agents in enforcing an executive order that, in
Hagedorn's view, was in conflict with the Idaho Constitution.
Hagedorn said "in a nutshell" the issue came down to the possibility
of a federal order that might lead to confiscation of guns or
ammunition. But Boise Democratic Sen. Elliot Werk questioned where
Hagedorn's suspicions were rooted.
"Do you have any indication that any federal order or law is imminent in the next decade?" asked Werk.
"No I do not," answered Hagedorn.
But Hagedorn's request for a full hearing on the bill was granted by the Senate State Affairs Committee.
It's far from the only weapons-related bill that the committee will
consider during the 2014 session. Committee Chair Sen. Curt McKenzie,
R-Boise, is steering his own bill,
which would allow people with enhanced concealed-weapon permits to carry guns on Idaho campuses.
(See updates on the guns on campus below).
Boise State University President Bob Kustra, in a Feb. 4 letter to
his university community, cautioned students and staff that, "weapons on
campus may in fact, lead to an acceleration of conflict in stressful
situations." Additionally, the Associated Students of Boise State, the
official student government association, passed its own resolution in
opposition to McKenzie's bill.
Even Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter
distanced himself from McKenzie's proposal in remarks to a Feb. 7 gathering in the North-Central Idaho community of Craigmont.
"We give all these assets--these big buildings, these big campuses
and everything--to the college president," Otter told the crowd in
Craigmont. "And we say you're responsible and now we come back and say
... you can make all the rules and regulations, except..."
Otter didn't finish his sentence but reminded the gathering that any
gun regulations should be crafted based on "doing the right thing."
UPDATE: Feb. 12, 2014 10:45 a.m.
At 10:40 a.m. on Feb. 12, the Republican majority of the Idaho Senate
State Affairs Committee overwhelmingly approved a measure which would
see more students, staff and faculty carrying firearms onto Idaho's
public college campuses.
"That concludes the business of the committee," said the bill's sponsor and committee chairman Sen. Curt McKenzie.
But that business didn't include input from dozens of citizens,
college officials and law enforcement officers who came to speak before
the committee but were cut off at 10:30 a.m..
"The University of Idaho hasn't even had a chance to speak. My
(Boise) Chief of Police hasn't had a chance to speak to the bill," said
Boise Democratic Sen. Elliot Werk who asked that the bill be held in
committee at McKenzie's discretion so that testimony could continue.
But McKenzie said, "If we continued to hear from everyone, it would take us three or four more meetings."
Ketchum Democratic Sen. Michelle Stennett, also pleading for a delay,
said the committee was "being awfully hasty to run this vote through
today. We haven't had an opportunity to hear from all of the
universities. It's unfair not to have them speak."
One of the colleges that was represented in the two-and-a-half hours
of testimony Wednesday morning was the College of Western Idaho which
argued that the measure, which would allow persons with enhanced
concealed weapons permits to carry guns on campus, would require
significant security upgrades.
Even Republican Sen. Patti Anne Lodge asked for more time to review the costs that colleges would face if the bill were passed.
But ultimately, any effort to delay the bill failed, and the
Republican majority moved the bill to the full State Senate with a "do
pass" recommendation.
The vote was 7-2 along party lines.
Voting yes were: Sens. Curt McKenzie (chairman), Bart Davis, Russ
Fulcher, Brent Hill, Chuck winder, Patti Anne Lodge and Jeff Siddoway.
Voting no were Sens. Michelle Stennett and Elliot Werk.
ORIGINAL POST: Feb. 12, 2014 9:30 a.m.
When the Idaho Senate State Affairs Committee gaveled in an early
morning hearing, which was moved to the Statehouse's Lincoln Auditorium
due to the large audience, there was only one item on the agenda—Senate
Bill 1254, which allow individuals with enhanced concealed weapon
permits to carry firearms onto Idaho's public college campuses.
The sponsor of the bill is the committee's chairman, Sen. Curt
McKenzie. But McKenzie didn't present his own measure. Instead, he
allowed Dakota Moore, lobbyist for the National Rifle Association to
introduce the bill.
Moore said he took personal offense at what he called the
"stereotype" of a drinking culture and immaturity among college
students. He also pushed back at
Boise State University Dr. Bob Kustra's recent letter
to his students, staff and faculty that said there was "no recorded
incident in which a victim—or a spectator—of a violent crime on a campus
has prevented a crime by brandishing a weapon."
"Just five days before he sent that email out,
USA Today
reporting about a shooting on a Florida campus where a man shot one of
his attackers," said Moore. "He was cleared of any liability."
The Senate committee settled in for what was expected to take
the better part of the morning, with McKenzie cautioning those wishing
to testify that they would be limited to three minutes.
First up was interim University of Idaho President Don Burnett,
testifying against the proposal, saying it would cut back the authority
of the universities to use their best judgement in working with local
law enforcement.
But the hearing took a definitive turn when Dr. Kimberly
McAdams, a Boise State University psychology professor told the
committee that she was in fear of her life.
"My life was recently threatened by a student," McAdams said, her voice shaking.
McAdams said she was in particular fear of a student who has
repeatedly threatened her, yet she felt unsafe in her classroom which
has one door and one window.
"There would be no way for me to escape with my life," she
said. "I respectfully disagree with the presidents of Idaho universities
who oppose this bill. They are not the ones directly in the line of
fire. Please give me a fighting chance of saving my life and the lives
of my students. This student has been fixated on me. Please support this
bill. My life depends on it."
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